My story is different. Stable home but both parents were just plain "stick-in-the-muds." Any idea I brought up would be poo-pooed. Not that they were lazy, far from it, just unwilling to dream I guess. At least they didn't go into debt, sure wish I could have done life that way. Their attitudes forced me out but at heart I have some of that risk avoidance in me too which I try to overcome by forcing myself to try new things when I can.
I hope Van Camping will be a part of that.
I hope Van Camping will be a part of that.


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