take my money dangit!

[Wayne49]

It's a scooter (smaller wheel/tire), not a bicycle.

[Gr8ful]

Iknow but you set them by wheel size or use a cheap GPS then you're right on.

[mudbunny]

Electric starter on the list. The DOT guy that wrote that in must have had a flooded shovelhead back in the day.

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[Scott7022]

I’ve never rode on a motor scooter that had an electric starter. Harley, Vincent, Husky none of them had them. Hell even my Datsun with the Ford 289 didn’t have a starter, couldn’t fit it. I’ll see your kick starting panhead and raise you a rolling start M21 rock crusher behind an engine with12.7 to 1 compression. Lol.

Kids today have it easy.


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[Gr8ful]

Michigan just wants your money, show then a reciept, pay the fee & leave. We don't have out cars checked either.
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[Snikwahjm]

Fall out from covid related unemployment... people get more money on unemployment so we have a couple problems. No school bus drivers. If you want a ride call uber... then there are garbage truck drivers oops I mean no garbage truck drivers. Indianapolis already had trash rationing now it’s double down. If they don’t want to they don’t haul it. We are supposed to be able to put a large item on the curb. Some times it will take a month for them to haul it off. Then you can kill grass somewhere else... some people are getting creative where they dispose of stuff.

[tx2sturgis]

Ural motorcycles still have kickstarters, and they work, but also they have an electric starter.

I love to kickstart that old Ural out in front of a biker bar with a bunch of Harley riders watching.

Most of them nowadays have never even seen a kickstarter or ever used one.

Fun stuff.

[tx2sturgis]

Michigan just wants your money, show then a reciept, pay the fee & leave. We don't have out cars checked either.
Here's an ultralight airspeed indicator, $18.95, easy to install & works great https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/p...cIQAvD_BwE

Can you imagine going into a Ford dealership and telling the salesman, yeah, I'll take that brand new but incomplete SuperDuty over there in the corner that's waiting on all the dashboard instruments?

Aint gonna happen. They can't sell it no matter what state you are in. Against the law.

[Wayne49]

Somehow that's not sinking in for everyone.

The manufacturer cannot legally ship a vehicle that lacks the required features out of the plant.
An exception would be for vehicles shipped to specialty vehicle manufacturers, who would have to add missing required features.

Even a small boutique scooter builder must follow those rules.

Under 50cc is something else.

I was surprised that an electric starter was a must have on every motorcycle.
On my Suzuki DR-200 there's a hole on the right side case, with a plug in it, for the kick starter on non-USA variants.

My Honda S-90's kick starter got bunged, it was easy enough to bump start.

[tx2sturgis]

In many cases, the manufacturer can apply for variances but they must show a good reason. If there are any street-legal motorcycles still being made that ONLY have a kickstarter, the manufacturer would probably apply for a variance. In the past, there were many street-legal dual-sport (used to be called enduro) bikes with kick-start only. I had one, a 1980 Yamaha XT-250.

But now, brand new XT-250s only have electric start.

Back in the day, lots of motorcycles including many British and American bikes had the shifter on the right and the rear brake pedal on the left. Not anymore. You can't sell a new motorcycle in the USA with the shifter on the right. If it even has one, some don't. But if it does, that shifter lever must be on the left. Same with the clutch lever, throttle, kill switch, high beam switch, starter button, horn button...etc etc...all dictated by our DOT. They got into motorcycle design back in the late 1960's I believe, and we are better for it, in my opinion. You wont hear me say that about a lot of things the government does.

One thing to keep in mind is that state regulations and laws are essentially irrelevant when it comes to any brand new vehicle sold in the US, UNLESS that vehicle will only be sold within that one state.

Once a new vehicle is offered for sale across state lines, then federal laws have to be followed.

Obviously, used vehicles, and in this case motorcycles, and scooters, can be modified or customized and aligned with an owners choices, and then the state regs matter and have to be followed. The feds wont care if you add loud exhaust or remove turn signals, etc, but the local constabulary might pull you over.