For the record

[Headache]

hey,headache,hows that peice of crap van i found for ya doing,one of my not so successful finds

Nawww.  Don't think of it that way.  It sat for 5 years being rained in because of broken windows.  NOTHING I know of would have survived sitting that long without something going "bad" on it.  I'm unfortunately dealing with each issue as it comes up as that's all I can afford to do.  I've since duct taped the leaking windows and upper brake light but recently it's(the engine) been choking and puking and today it would barely stay running when I moved it to the shade.  I'm almost certain it's going to be an issue from sitting.  It still needed a tune up but the ECM replacement scheduled for Tues will be held off(unless it's the ECM actually causing it) because I have to pay for what will keep it running.

But if you ever find yourself northeast of Seattle I'll not turn away your mechanical abilities!  No sir!

[Blacktank]

hey,headache,hows that peice of crap van i found for ya doing,one of my not so successful finds

Nawww.  Don't think of it that way.  It sat for 5 years being rained in because of broken windows.  NOTHING I know of would have survived sitting that long without something going "bad" on it.  I'm unfortunately dealing with each issue as it comes up as that's all I can afford to do.  I've since duct taped the leaking windows and upper brake light but recently it's(the engine) been choking and puking and today it would barely stay running when I moved it to the shade.  I'm almost certain it's going to be an issue from sitting.  It still needed a tune up but the ECM replacement scheduled for Tues will be held off(unless it's the ECM actually causing it) because I have to pay for what will keep it running.

But if you ever find yourself northeast of Seattle I'll not turn away your mechanical abilities!  No sir!

thought it was the rear end or trans was making noise?

yes,not driving a vehicle is the worst thing for it,what you are going to have to do is get some spray electrical contact cleaner and some qtips/small cleaning tools and go connection to connection cleaning everything,it sucks but you can go from bad transmission to all is fine just by cleaning the throttle position sensor electrical connection

[Headache]

thought it was the rear end or trans was making noise?

it sucks but you can go from bad transmission to all is fine just by cleaning the throttle position sensor electrical connection

The rear end was making noise but I've since had that partially rebuilt.  The tranny is shifting poorly and so far that looks like it's the ECM causing that.  It also appears that the choking and puking may also be the ECM as I started and moved it yesterday and it ran like it came off the lot brand new.  Sheesh.  Tuesday can't come soon enough!  Neither can my escape from WA.  I've been talking about it long enough!

There's no way I could physically clean all those terminals. I couldn't reach most of them to begin with...

[Nissi]

Personally, I think that's silly.  If the vast majority of people stopped living lives of "quiet desperation", there would be no one to make vehicles, refine petroleum, and grow food, and we'd all be reduced to wandering around, on foot, as hunter-gathers.  So I depend on them to continue doing what they are doing to support my own comfortable lifestyle.  They most definitely should NOT all start living in vans down by the river.

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[frater secessus]

Personally, I think that's silly.  If the vast majority of people stopped living lives of "quiet desperation", there would be no one to make vehicles, refine petroleum, and grow food, and we'd all be reduced to wandering around, on foot, as hunter-gathers.

I think the mission is silly for another reason:  some folks are so conditioned to the nanny state system they are unable to think or do for themselves.  As Trainchaser said elsewhere:  "If you can’t recognize danger when you see it, this is not the life for you."


It's why I think spoonfeeding new posters is potentially harmful.  Those who are paying attention will pick up the trail and start running.  Those who can't follow the trail don't need to be wandering around on their own anyhow. 

Consider this recent reponse to the Ermagerd y'all, if ya just lift up peoples' spirit their batteries will get fully charged thread:

Thank you, Bob. I was completely lost. ... It's exactly this [emotive thread], combined with the encouraging welcome I received, as well as your and others' videos on your channel, that gave me the courage to throw caution to the wind, grab my ailing husband, and get going...

Sweet Baby Jebus. How long until we find their frozen bodies in a van somewhere in the Dakotas?

[Texjbird]

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O. K. I've been away for a bit and now I'm more confused than ever....and that takes some doing too..... tjb

        WHAT MISSION, PLEASE tjb
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I think the mission is silly for another reason:

[frater secessus]

The reference was that Bob is a Man on a Mission to get everyone into vans.

[Gunny]

Never mind, I tried to type three responses but none seemed appropriate.

Not everyones health, or income or any of many other variables will allow everyone to succeed.

Rob

[sternwake]

As a surfer, the most dreaded thing one can see, when one is out in the water, is more surfers crossing the dune, even if they are friends. Fucking Crowds fucking suck the joy out of riding a wave, and there are already too fucking many of us.

I feel the same way about van dwelling. When there are too many in any one urban or semi urban spot/area, what was good becomes bad. What has the potential to be joyful, becomes something/somplace to avoid entirely as it could be dangerous or just anger inducing.

I don't even surf on weekends anymore when there are good waves, as it is so disgustingly crowded, and on my best days, I just don't like humans very much.

If one is already wise to the benefits of this lifestyle, is respectful of the area in which they habitate or transit, then all is good, there will always be the rat racers to continue the consumer based, keeping up with the Jonses economy.

But the tune in turn on move into a van and drop out message, should not be shouted from vantops across the internet by the pied piper of fake good will, when perhaps the prime motivator is a lining of one's pockets through you tube hits and ad revenue.

Out here and likely everywhere with a coastline, there are surf schools. They take people out in massive groups, and teach them some of the very basics, but teach them nothing about etiquette. Who has priority, how to stay out of the way, how not to be a menace. These people learn only how to turn their disgusting rubber costco chinese made surfboards toward land, paddle furiously, clumsily get to their feet, and then inpersonate a monkey on meth riding a line of piddly whitewater straight to sand, and insult the ocean, the wave, and Nature itself, and consider themselves surfers.

The few people who actually have the ability to get a small sense of that preorgasmic pleasure of riding a a wave mostly parallel to shore on open face before it breaks, and get hooked, then never consider that just because they can catch a specific wave on a crowded day, does not mean they are right to do so. While there is no rulebook or legal based enforcement, there are traffic rules. These surf schools are turning loose people on the roads with no concept of traffic signals or right of way, or even other traffic. It is rather insane and totally irresponsible, as on some days boards and bodies are flying all over the place, it is like playing frogger.
There is no point.

In the past some enforcers would/could keep some order, but that cannot be done anymore, which is both good and bad, but anybody showing respect and deference to elders /locals, or those more skilled, and waiting their turn, would not have problems. But today there is no respect. Just Me ME me and mine right now and screw you, and I'm only 45. Hearing the older surfers complain about the crowds today make me yearn for the time before I was even born.

At least Bob tried to keep some rules going regarding dwelling, and keep people from being horrible inconsiderate selfish bastards, but it seems that is the direction of humanity's devolution.

But these surf schools release these 'students' unfit to enter an already over crowded lineup. Is BW's the more the merrier message doing the same thing?

I am seeing more and more people living in their vans round these parts in recent years, and more and more complaints in the local news about it, and it makes me a little sick inside. Perhaps somebody once saw me and though the same thing, perhaps recently.

As the numbers increase so will the problems for those of us tuned in well before the pied piper cheered their decision and enabled them.

Yes, I realize my hypocrisy.

Heck, I should have followed Gunny's lead and not clicked post reply

[Scott7022]

Sternwake,

I have only surfed once, in Hawaii and the first twenty minutes past can you swim was all about ethics and not being an idiot. It was a private lesson and she was a born local lady. The scariest thing for me was getting up on the board and catching a good line and thinking Holy crap I am up, HOLY HOLY crap I am going fast, followed seconds later by SHIT that is coral under me and I still going fast. As a diver, i know what that coral would have done to my exposed flesh, not to mention the destruction my porky harbour seal-like body would have done to it. She admonished me that I should have turned out of the wave before that area. It was an exhilarating experience and one I cherish and will not repeat. Not because it scared me but because I know it will take too many years to get good at it.

Life is all about learning and knowing your limitations.